Aug. 28th, 2017 05:59 am
elsewhence: (peridot annoyed)
man, the explanation that patamon and tailmon were able to armour evolve because their partners hold the crests of hope and light is still such a disappointing arsepull all those years later. why not just say that they also, coincidentally, happened to belong to species capable of pulling it off? it would be less of a coincidence to swallow than what the series actually did! or completely get rid of the notion that only certain digimon are capable of armour evolution and say that actually, the digital world powers in charge of that kind of thing actually just weren't complete arseholes and decided to cut the older chosen children a break because they had more real world stuff going on and wouldn't have been able to function effectively in both worlds. and that's why they didn't get the upgrade to D-3 digivices, which in that scenario are the only thing required for armour evolution. though it certainly would've been nice to tell them so and not leave so much potential for angst about how apparently everything they went through for the digital world's sake had ceased to matter...

also oh my god, the designs for the digimentals of hope and light are so damn uninspired. why not just call them digimental of patamon and digimental of tailmon at that point. (that reminds me, maybe it's time to work on my old digimental of kindness redesign some more. it doesn't have to be pink, does it? the crest of love is red, but the digimental of love is silver... the crest of knowledge is purple, but the digimental of knowledge yellow. a digimental of kindness that's neither flowery nor pink sure would be easier to design armour evolutions with!)

... i wonder whether when the series first aired all these years back, people were speculating about whether the show was going to introduce completely new crests so takeru and hikari could also get two digimentals each?

Aug. 23rd, 2017 07:27 am
elsewhence: (guide text adventure)
speaking of "guilt tripping chosen children into accepting their role", give me the AU where osamu lived and where he actually wanted to keep the digivice away from ken because he feared for his safety. and then the powers that govern the digital world went "hmm, we can work with this" and he was chosen himself. of course considering that his death was a large part of what lead ken to become the kaiser in the first place, the plot beyond that would change a lot more...

(bonus points if ken never gets the original digivice back, or even attempts to - he just gets another, which osamu doesn't even know about at first. of course he flips out when he first sees it. then he realises that no, ken isn't lying, that digivice is still right where you put it. it's yours now, have fun.)

Aug. 23rd, 2017 05:53 am
elsewhence: (arkanoid and vaus)
thoughts on digimon adventure 02, episode 2: so what would happen if a chosen child just outright refused the call? miyako kind of freaked out for a moment there, but one pep talk later she was right as rain and i don't think the subject ever came up again. still though, what if? would a digimon partner even be able to get any power from a human who just straight out refused to fight? is the actual reason children get picked to defend the digital world because it's easier to make them fall in line through guilt and peer pressure, and because they're more likely to accept the "chosen one" trope at face value?

Aug. 21st, 2017 05:58 am
elsewhence: (look out of the window)
rewatching digimon adventure 02, so why not some commentary.

- digimon tamers really played up the whole "three primary colours" motif for a while, but it wasn't new at all. there were three new chosen children at the beginning of digimon adventure 02, and their digivices were blue, red and yellow. that's the subtractive primaries used by artists. tamers was going for the additive primaries red, green and blue. (also i just realised that for all the fuss they made of the "primary colours" theme, the set of secondary colours was never completed. nobody has a teal d-ark. that annoys me. could've given it to ryou, too, instead of his super special unique colour scheme)

- seeing 2s in binary code isn't new. one of the digimon adventure 02 eye catches has binary code that has only 0s and 2s. it just referred to the whole "02" theme back then, of course...

- i really would've preferred it if losing the holy ring had caused tailmon to revert to plotmon because of data loss, and she'd only have been able to reach adult level with hikari's help from that point on (though with full adult power, unlike actual 02 tailmon) until she finally got the ring back. would've been a lot more of a punch to the gut that way.

- i also never liked the plot point where the holy ring was what made jogress evolution possible (it was clearly still possible in movie 4 too!), so i guess she could've gotten it back sooner. maybe it was needed for some other special purpose in this alternate universe, one that was resolved sooner? maybe tailmon lost it and the digimon kaiser found it a lot sooner, and used it as a template for the original evil ring? they were said to be based on the design of the holy ring. in that case, the chosen children would be able to find it inside the digimon kaiser's base, and she would've returned to permanently being tailmon around the same point the newly introduced partners evolved naturally for the first time...

- also also, you sure could've packed in a lot more angst about the older chosen children (minus takeru and hikari) feeling that they'd lost their crests for good and that the digital world had rejected them despite all they'd done for it. from their point of view it probably seemed like their lost crests had returned in the form of digimentals, but now would not respond to them! i guess that's more of a thing for the kind of target audience that now watches digimon adventure tri, though.

Aug. 18th, 2017 07:08 pm
elsewhence: (jawa harmless)
man, i sure would love it if someone designed more coherent-looking evolution lines for the digimon adventure partners. like, "what would their evolution lines look like if they'd been newly introduced for digimon adventure 02, rather being fairly randomly thrown together from the bunch of digimon that were originally invented for the v-pets". i'm not nostalgic enough about the original anime to feel that that's the one and only true way, we could honestly do better than the random shit that is palmon's line...

Jul. 7th, 2017 07:12 am
elsewhence: (r2-d2 surprised)
so there's a recentish set of digimon adventure 02-themed digimon figurines that also includes terriermon and lopmon? i'm in favour of this! i'll probably always love movie 3 and therefore love anything that acknowledges its existance. i mean, technically wallace's terriermon had a slightly different colour scheme, the green bits were more of a minty shade than what's depicted here, but i'll take what i can get

Apr. 12th, 2016 03:10 pm
elsewhence: (jawa harmless)
prediction: we will get to hear an instrumental of target ~akai shougeki~ at some point near the end of digimon adventure tri. it will be epic and awesome and the digimon adventure 02 haters will cry. even more than they're already doing, anyway, with their conviction that the entire series was going to be retconned out of existance soundly disproven. the japanese people who grew up watching it don't seem to agree with your assessment of it...

also, thought i had about how it now seems to be possible for digimon to emerge into the real world unaided when it wasn't possible during the original anime: my first reaction was "what if it's becoming possible because wifi is becoming more and more common and there's now tons of digital information flying around the real world in a much less confined way than ever before". i mean, that turned out to not be the reason, nevermind that tri is set in 2005 and wifi wasn't quite as ubiquitous back then, but it would still be a cool plot.

Apr. 10th, 2016 11:10 pm
elsewhence: (look out of the window)
here's an interesting thought though - presumably ken's D-3 never lost the ability to block evolution and he just had zero desire to make it do so anymore. it was also shown to still be able to open a portal to the dark ocean, after all. what if there had been a plotline where he did end up using that ability again, except against a digimon they were fighting...

and presumably his D-3 also still has the ability to force dark evolution, as it did when it turned agumon first into skullgreymon and then into virus type metalgreymon. i'm sure there's a story to be found in that too. i mean, have there been any other chosen children who were able to make someone else's digimon partner evolve, even if a compeletely uncontrollable way? i can imagine situations where uncontrollable evolution would be better than no means of fighting at all. i can also imagine situations that would just plain get him pissed off enough to fall back into old habits, because the digimon kaiser was never this completely distinct entity, he was always just ken under really shitty circumstances.

why yes, i have a thing for "do the ends justify the means? (yes, they probably do, but you'll still end up feeling awful)" storylines, though i have no illusions about whether they would ever have been a real possibility in a children's anime. i also think that even considering ken was the one who got the most character development in digimon adventure 02, the fallout of his time as the digimon kaiser wasn't really dealt with, he was just really angsty for a bit and then sort of snapped back into being fairly quiet but generally alright. it's telling that i think he's at his best and most interesting in diablomon no gyakushuu and michi e no armour shinka. the latter has him flawlessly assuming his digimon kaiser persona for the sole purpose of making the point that daisuke would never be able to pull it off, for fuck's sake. and not seeming uncomfortable with doing so at all. he's clearly come to terms with it by that point. i'm just annoyed at the fact that we never really get to see how.

Apr. 10th, 2016 09:38 pm
elsewhence: (arkanoid and vaus)
help i love digimon adventure tri. finally real new digimon stories.

mildly intrigued by the fact that the theme that played for the apparent digimon kaiser's appearance wasn't ankoku no hohoemi, it was actually one of the themes originally created for the devimon arc, and reused for the weird dark whirlpool that the kaiser retrieved devimon's data from

meiko and she way she's being mary sued into the group and the fact that her digimon partner's name is so similar to her own are annoying. i'm not sure she was actually chosen in the same way or for the same reasons as the chosen children we know. it's as if someone just stuck meicoomon with her to try and contain whatever is going on with her, or something

also now randomly enjoy the idea that this weird organisation that's keeping track of the chosen children always (somewhat unfairly) sort of viewed ken as a liability and was a little displeased at the fact that he was part of the team, because if he already got corrupted into doing the total opposite of what a chosen child should be doing once. because it's not as if that only happened because he blamed himself for his brother's death and was really susceptible to anything that looked like a  way to get away from that reality...

Dec. 20th, 2015 08:44 pm
elsewhence: (look out of the window)
give us more armour evolutions give us more jogress evolutions give us more 02

or just more 02, that works too

(seriously though, i hope we get to see at least some new digimon. i mean, palmon and gomamon apparently being able to evolve to ultimate will be cool, and so is vikemon being gomamon's ultimate instead of shakkoumon's because it just makes so much sense, but these are still digimon that have been around for ages and ages? and totally new evolutions being epically revealed was always so cool aaah)

Dec. 4th, 2015 09:39 pm
elsewhence: (sempervivum)
yay!

already seen someone claim that the crest of miracles (as opposed to the digimental of miracles) is now canon because of this. except it also shows a crest of fate here, which would also make movie 3 canon because the symbol from the digimental of fate has never appeared anywhere else, when there's pretty much no way for it to fit into the anime timeline. look, i love movie 3, but we've got to be realistic here.

(unless they're going to have wallace appear in digimon adventure tri?? yes please)

(don't think i won't try to get a hold of some of these anyway, though.)

Nov. 26th, 2015 06:59 pm
elsewhence: (look out of the window)
okay it is weird that agumon and gabumon were able to evolve all the way to ultimate and even fuse into omegamon, since it did seem like they'd lost that power again by the end of digimon adventure 02, but that's not something you can pin on digimon adventure tri. they were able to do it in movie 4, which is pretty clearly meant to be set after the end of the series...

also ahaha i'm imagining how butthurt the people must be who always went on about wanting a digimon tamers sequel because it supposedly was so much ~*darker*~ and ~*more realistic*~ (i mean, it was pretty obvious they were actually just unable to deal with the fact that they enjoyed a children's anime even though they were teenagers and so latched onto anything that seemed even slightly mature and blew it completely out of proportion, but). here we are getting a story that actually is targetted at a somewhat older audience, but it's part of the continuety you always looked down on! suck it.

Nov. 25th, 2015 09:07 pm
elsewhence: (r2-d2 surprised)
digimon adventure tri woooo

and there we go, digimon adventure 02 hasn't been retconned. i know some people had speculated about something like a time line where its events had been undone, rather than one where they'd never taken place at all, but even that isn't possible now. and what would it take for 02 to never have happened, anyway? it would probably be necessary for ken to never have become a chosen child, and for that to happen, he would have to have missed the omegamon battle. or i guess alternatively you could have a time line where he was chosen, but osamu never died and he never had an incentive to become the digimon kaiser...

(also i like how taichi apparently has an english textbook called one vision, haha. i never liked digimon tamers much, but i can appreciate this. and the way omegamon's evolution sequence made a visual callback to jogress evolution with that DNA-like spiral was cool. have to admit though, i was hoping for an updated beat hit from the moment it became obvious that omegamon was going to make an appearance, that would've been even more epic. the whole damn franchise never made it obvious was the difference between jogress and fusion was, anyway. is it just that jogress does after all stand for "joint progress" and a combination of wargreymon and metalgarurumon can't progress to a higher level because they're already both ultimates? how arbitrary.)

Dec. 23rd, 2014 03:25 pm
elsewhence: (arkanoid and vaus)
there we go. digimon adventure 02 is still canon. as it should be, because it's awesome.

it's cool if they decide to ignore the epilogue though. that's the one part that basically everyone agreed was awful. that's the universal fate of "X years later" epilogues, i think.

also haha look at the poll linked in the third point. poor unpopular wallace. the fact they offered him as an option at all when i'm pretty sure the movie's still considered out of continuety is cool though. he's always held kind of an odd inbetween position though, he's the only international chosen who appears in an audio drama, he briefly appears in D-1 tamers...

(please make him a bit more official that would be cool)

Dec. 18th, 2014 09:24 pm
elsewhence: (arkanoid and vaus)
hmm the title of the new digimon adventure anime sure implies that digimon adventure 02 is still canonical. take that, people who wanted it to be retconned out of existance. though really for me it was already somewhat implied in the fact that taichi was stated to now be 17 years old - why, if it were meant to be a direct sequel to digimon adventure only, would you set it as far in the future as six years? why not a bit closer to the original series? one possible answer is "dude, we already know what was going on in the digital world three years after the original series, and setting another series not too long after that would also seem weird".

and the fact that nothing related to the digimon adventure 02 cast has been revealed yet could easily be down to the fact that well, it's the anniversary of the original series. the one far more people get nostalgic about, too. and also it would make for much more of a surprise if they did appear later on.

Aug. 18th, 2014 05:07 am
elsewhence: (r2-d2 fail)
there are now actually people who think that perfect level rapidmon is the original and armor level the cheap ripoff, oh my god. seriously, just the way terriermon's and lopmon's lines were shamelessly reused in digimon tamers is enough for me to hate that fucking series. and what the hell was up with turning chocomon brown for no reason, while we're at it? terriermon is cream with mint green accents, his baby forms are mint green, lopmon is brown with pink accents, his baby forms are pink, what's so difficult to understand about that...

Aug. 5th, 2014 10:45 pm
elsewhence: (r2-d2 surprised)
new digimon anime?? and real digimon anime too, not worthless tamers shit or whatever? :DDD

Aug. 1st, 2014 06:21 pm
elsewhence: (Default)
haha i'm running digimon unlimited and my agumon just tried to evolve during training and the program crashed and the mental image of that is hilarious

not totally decided on whether i won't just kill i off though. i mean, i wanted a v-mon. i got a guilmon on my first try and killed that off too. getting enough care mistakes for the evolution line you want is tricky

(how to torture digimon for fun and profit)

(though if we're totally realistic, even if digimon were real - humans created computers, humans decide what gets to run on them and how, gods don't follow no fucking rules)

Jun. 21st, 2014 05:44 am
elsewhence: (r2-d2 fail)
fuuuck i reached what must be the very last area on this stupid digivice toy and the fucking thing froze. only way to get it to respond was to remove the battery. 250,000 steps, gone. what the hell.

goddamnit, i wanted to know how it ends and if that really was the end.

EDIT: i think the battery may be going, it just did the same thing again 5,000 steps into a new game. suddenly froze with a loud beep and glitched graphics. and some of the graphics are still glitching now. guess i should replace it before trying again. it was three and a half years old...

Jun. 12th, 2014 12:23 am
elsewhence: (jawa harmless)
damn, stuck on the same point in gameplay as i was here again, so i'm complaining about it again in the hopes that it'll magically help again